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Chapter 36

           Yousee,Iamwillingtoadmit,forthesakeoftheargument,thatmatterexists; andwhatIamabouttodoistoeffaceyoubyyourownargument. Ican’tdoitanyotherway,foryouarebothcongenitallyunabletounderstandaphilosophicabstraction." 

           "Andnow,whatdoyouknowofmatter,accordingtoyourownpositivescience? Youknowitonlybyitsphenomena,itsappearances. Youareawareonlyofitschanges,orofsuchchangesinitascausechangesinyourconsciousness. Positivesciencedealsonlywithphenomena,yetyouarefoolishenoughtostrivetobeontologistsandtodealwithnoumena. Yet,bytheverydefinitionofpositivescience,scienceisconcernedonlywithappearances. Assomebodyhassaid,phenomenalknowledgecannottranscendphenomena." 

           "YoucannotanswerBerkeley,evenifyouhaveannihilatedKant,andyet,perforce,youassumethatBerkeleyiswrongwhenyouaffirmthatscienceprovesthenon-existenceofGod,or,asmuchtothepoint,theexistenceofmatter. YouknowIgrantedtherealityofmatteronlyinordertomakemyselfintelligibletoyourunderstanding. Bepositivescientists,ifyouplease; butontologyhasnoplaceinpositivescience,soleaveitalone. Spencerisrightinhisagnosticism,butifSpencer" 

           Butitwastimetocatchthelastferry-boatforOakland,andBrissendenandMartinslippedout,leavingNortonstilltalkingandKreisandHamiltonwaitingtopounceonhimlikeapairofhoundsassoonashefinished. 

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